Re: [Salon] I used to think the term ’Judeo-Nazis’ was excessive. I don’t any longer.



You’re right Scott, I do. Though I’m almost as harsh in my judgment of Biden as I am of Trump, for his carrying on most of Trump’s aggressions which precipitated the Russian response, with Biden being there in time when preparations were finally complete barely one year after Trump left office. In time for Biden to receive full blame for Russia’s counter-attack to what had been Trump’s (and Duda’s) “Irregular War” campaign against Russia throughout Trump’s Presidency, with accusation’s of Biden’s "weakness” being the cause of Russia’s invasion n taking office. And ignoring, until recently, with Trump and Duda now openly boasting of their war campaign against Russia, of Trump’s aggression against Russia. With that having been confirmed, in a positive way, by military leader’s testimony in Congress of all that they did under Trump, against Russia. 

You write: "No one realized it then, but Obama’s words marked an end of an era that had begun with Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern.” And that’s true, as the initially Goldwater inspired Scoop Jackson Democrats took full control of the Democrats, except for “fringe candidates” like AOC, Tlaib, et al., whom Republican Oligarchs funded campaigns against to get Republican allied Democrats in instead. 

Meanwhile, the Israeli fascist’s New Right allies, Trump, DeSantis, Ramaswamy, et al., sponsored by your magazine and the Quincy Institute like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVzoZwoU_RY, where Vance makes fully clear he enthusiastically supports all-out, regime-change war against Russia, but wants the Europeans to wage and pay for it!

Vance, Trump, Ramaswamy, DeSantis, of the “New Right/NatCons” so heavily promoted by TAC/QI, it totally clear there would be no opposition from the Republicans, especially the “New Right,” to Israeli genocide, and the Israeli fascists pushing it the hardest. Heres a transcript if it helps, though you of course know this. 

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Already in 2017, Trump had escalated in lethality and quantity the weapons he was providing to Ukraine (Azov Bn) for killing Russians, rather than engage in any kind of diplomacy, as he claims he will now. Purely for the purposes of the historical record, here is what a Trump supporter then, and now, had to say about "Modern War,” meaning the kind Trump waged against Russia and Iran throughout his administration, which is exactly what your partner Heritage calls for more of. “Nuance” and “context” matter! Trump’s doctrinal statements parallel all that was written at the links below. With a wild guess, I’m guessing Russia, China, and Iran were all fully aware of this, as they were that Trump designated all three an interlocking “Enemy,” to targeted for annihilation, when the opportunity presented itself after his massive military buildup achieved the kind of overwhelming dominance all military aggressors build for in preparation for “Offensive War.” 

"However, it would be wrong for Europeans to conclude that President Trump wants to withdraw all US forces from Europe. The President simply wants the US military to be NATO’s security guarantor of last resort, not NATO’s “first responder.”"


"How meaningful and enduring the recently announced ceasefire between Kiev and Moscow will turn out to be is not known. But Putin’s gushing nostalgia for the Soviet Union of his youth suggests he thinks much like Stalin and would push Russia’s borders westward over Ukraine’s shattered remains.
. . . 

"We need mobile ground forces that can take hits, fight and win against capable opponents like Russia and other great powers, not forces designed to police and combat hapless Arabs, Afghans and Africans.

"Putin is restoring Soviet norms in Moscow’s foreign and defense policy."

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https://www.france24.com/en/20171223-usa-provide-ukraine-weaponry-javelin-anti-tank-missiles-fight-russian-backed-separatists
"In recent days, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has warned that violence is up about 60 percent this year. In Europe earlier this month, Tillerson called Russia's involvement the biggest tension point between the former Cold War rivals.

"It stands as the single most difficult obstacle to us renormalizing the relationship with Russia, which we badly would like to do," Tillerson said."


https://www.armytimes.com/flashpoints/2017/12/23/us-agrees-to-send-lethal-weapons-to-ukraine-angering-russia/

"The Trump administration has approved a plan to provide lethal weapons to Ukraine, a long-awaited move that deepens America’s involvement in the military conflict and may further strain relations with Russia. Moscow responded angrily on Saturday.
. . . 
"The United States, under Obama, also imposed sanctions on Russia for its invasion and annexation of Crimea. The Trump administration has insisted those sanctions will stay in place until Moscow gives up the Crimean Peninsula."


On Oct 14, 2024, at 11:58 AM, SCOTT MCCONNELL <scottpost@aol.com> wrote:

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Here’s a piece I wrote,  up today, which I suspect Todd will find super duper fascist. 


On Oct 14, 2024, at 12:16 PM, Todd Pierce via Salon <salon@listserve.com> wrote:

And “None Dare Call Them Fascist,” nor does anyone (besides me)  dare of their American fascist co-Ideologues who support them most zealously in the U.S. They are the “Traditional Conservative” Trumpites, and their "National Conservative" fellow fascists, as articulated by the Israeli Settler Yoram Hazony, and the libertarians providing ideological cover and doing all they can to get Trumpite politicians elected. While constantly shifting attention/blame away from the aforesaid with their misrepresentations that it’s the “NeoCons” driving this, to distract us from seeing it’s the “Anti-NeoCon Trump” and his fellow “New Right Fascists” who are so closely allied to Israel’s own fascists, that they’re indistinguishable from them ideologically/political theory wise!

With the Trump/Adelson/Koch/Thiel/Heritage “Third-Way,” completing the transition to “Full Fascism,” as Trump and Adelson proclaim below, with outout using the “F” word: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edVryBdin_k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TezaShAib24

Unfortunately, “hands aren’t clean here,” given all the support here of Trumpism, representing both Traditional Conservatism (Willmoore Kendall as chief ideologists) and National Conservatism (Kendallian influenced Yoram Hazony as chief ideologist), with both under the banner of Trump/Vance!

Nevertheless, in what I consider a “Mass Deception Campaign by Trumpite think tanks such as Quincy Institute’s New Right faction, and media platforms like The American Conservative and Compact magazines, we have been continuously served “Propaganda by Omission” claims that Trump represented “Anti-NeoConservatism, while omitting that he represents something even worse, "Full Fascism,” allied to Israel’s Fascists. 

I won’t list names of who on this list who claimed that Trump was the “anti-NeoCon,” with the "suggestion” or assertion that “Peace is Now at Hand,” under Trump, but this article is representative of what was said here so often:
Quote: "That's significant in itself, but Vance's nomination also spells the final and long-overdue end of the neoconservative movement.
(Paul du Quenoy is President of the Palm Beach Freedom Institute. “Freedom Institute? That’s all you need to know to recognize this is a deception.) 

Here’s an honest assessment of Vance: 

"For all the talk of "isolationism," it appears that Vance is looking for yet another U.S. war in the Middle East. Apparently, 20 years of war in Afghanistan and Iraq weren't enough.

. . . 

"When it comes to U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, Democrats and Republicans often behave as two slightly different faces of the same single-party state. For all the talk of Vance being an "isolationist," both he and Biden embrace the same Trump policy framework that could drive yet another U.S. war in the Middle East.

Except Trump/Vance take theirs and QI’s/Heritage/TAC’s “Third-Way Foreign Policy of Restraint” 🤣 even further than Biden, as can be seen in the Adelson/Trump videos above!

On Oct 14, 2024, at 10:31 AM, Chas Freeman via Salon <salon@listserve.com> wrote:

I used to think the term ’Judeo-Nazis’ was excessive. I don’t any longer.

I used to think that Yeshayahu Leibowitz's term "Judeo-Nazis" was too strong to describe Israel. But today, I feel differently.

The late Professor Yeshayahu Leibowitz applied the term “Judeo-Nazis” back in the late 1980s when he referred to former Supreme Court Judge Meir Landau, who effectively legalized torture, by that description. He made his arguments strongly: “The State of Israel represents the darkness of a state body, where a creature of a human form who was the president of the Supreme Court decides that the use of torture is permitted in the interest of the state.” 

I took it as a kind of moral exaggeration. It was bad — Palestinians were being tortured systematically, but somehow I thought, we’re not quite as genocidal as Nazis. 

But today, I feel differently. Yesterday, Jerusalem’s Deputy Mayor Arieh King tweeted a photo of over a hundred naked Palestinians who were kidnapped by the Israeli military in Gaza, handcuffed, and sitting in the sand, guarded by Israeli soldiers. King wrote that “The IDF is exterminating the Nazi Muslims in Gaza” and that “we must up the tempo”. “If it were up to me,” he added, “I would bring 4 D9’s [bulldozers], place them behind the sandy hills and give an order to bury all those hundreds of Nazis alive. They are not human beings and not even human animals, they are subhuman and that is how they should be treated,” King said. He ended by repeating Netanyahu’s biblical Amalek genocidal reference: “Eradicate the memory of the Amalek, we will not forget.” 

While Israel called it a “Hamas roundup,” the men and children in those photos, as young as 13 years old, were doctors, journalists, shopkeepers, and other civilians who had sought refuge in UNRWA schools in Beit Lahia. They had been arbitrarily kidnapped and separated from their families.

King’s tweet had been reposted by Middle East Monitor and was apparently just over the top for X, as it seems to have been removed by the platform. But not to worry: this morning, King tweeted again with the same photo and others (of naked Palestinian boys and men on trucks), this time opening his post with a biblical quote referring to Amalek, perhaps in order to confuse the algorithms. He quoted from Deuteronomy 25, 19:

“When the Lord your God gives you rest from all the enemies around you in the land he is giving you to possess as an inheritance, you shall blot out the name of Amalek from under heaven. Do not forget!”

Still, King found it necessary to emphasize the current relevance, lest it be too vague:

“Hundreds of sons of Amalek, Muslim-Nazis, what do you think their judgment should be?”

So, it is clear that we are really in Nazi times, and it really does bring associations of the Holocaust. This rhetoric and these deeds are now everywhere. Today, journalist and media host Yinon Magal (who was formerly a lawmaker in Naftali Bennett’s Jewish Home party and hosts a radio show with Ben Caspit on centrist Maariv 103FM radio) tweeted the same photo with a split screen featuring a 1967 photo of Palestinian prisoners (notably, dressed), and wrote that “history repeats itself.” He could just as well have used a 1948 Nakba photo or, for that matter, a Holocaust photo. Magal just does not seem to get the irony: history, indeed, repeats itself. 

Yesterday, Magal tweeted a photo of some of these naked boys and men as they sat on the razed street in Beit Lahiya and seriously asked, “why aren’t there women in the photo.” 

It’s hard to even get around all of the layers of perversion here. 

Earlier yesterday, Magal shared a video of Israeli soldiers in Gaza singing and dancing, and he typed the words of their genocidal song approvingly: 

“I have come to conquer Gaza 
And hit Hizbollah on the head
And only adhere to one mitzvah [deed]
To eradicate the seed of Amalek
I have left my house behind
And will not return until victory [is achieved]
Everyone knows our slogan
There are no uninvolved”

These are not just the chants of some kids on the hills. They are soldiers in Gaza — the same soldiers perpetrating this horrific genocide right in front of our eyes. Those cheerleading them in explicitly genocidal terms are not just far-right fanatics either; this spirit is everywhere. 

I am speaking to some fellow activists who find it really hard to cope with this. We can hardly follow the horrors, the rising death toll — while U.S. officials say that the Israeli assault might continue in its current mode until the end of January and then continue with a “lower-intensity, hyper-localized strategy.” 

How on earth can this genocide continue with the whole world watching, we ask ourselves? Well, the answer appears to be that it is continuing precisely because the whole world has chosen to watch it rather than stop it. This is on us all.

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